A tale of two idiots
Normally I wouldn't give these two any attention at all. They're both a couple of numb-from-the-brain-down , fever-swamp liberal hacks that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a flashlight. But I heard this exchange this morning and I was floored. Rosie “I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel." O'Donnell and Janeane "Larry Elder kicked my sorry butt in 2004 at the DNC" Garofalo were yacking with one another on O'Donnell's Sirius Radio show (she must've paid some big bucks for that show because she clearly lacks the talent to make it in the real world of broadcasting) and had a rather revealing exchange.
The Left accuses conservatives of drinking the kool-aid yet they seem to excuse this sort of stupidity from two of their own:
JANEANE GAROFALO: I don't know what makes one a Rush Limbaugh fan. [...]
ROSIE O' DONNELL: And how is it that he's able to be a junkie, literally, and sort of still have reverence, respect, and be heralded as the leader of these, you know...
GAROFALO: Well, look at who he's talking to.
O'DONNELL: I know.
GAROFALO: Look at who he's talking to.
O'DONNELL: Those are the kind of people who if it was a junkie, right? What, because he buys the Oxycontin from a doctor?
GAROFALO: Sure, bought it's very elastic, isn't it? It's always a double standard. When it comes to rightwingers, whatever works for them works. [...]
GAROFALO: But here's another thing with the type of mindset, like, like, I keep saying rightwinger, I don't know what else to call it. A person that lacks empathy...Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, the guy who comes up with the talking points at these meetings. Grover Norquist. They have no shame. You can't embarrass them. They have no problem, and they know that they, who they're lying to. The base if you will. It need not be given facts, need not be fair-minded or open-minded to anything. And you, when you talk that way to people, the way Rush talks to people, the way he lies to people, you can't have respect for him. You couldn't possibly respect who's listening to you if you lied to them the way that they do. They use these people as a blunt instrument.
O'DONNELL: Do you think that they believe it? Rush or Glenn Beck or those people?
GAROFALO: It depends. Sometimes, like, when you meet Sean Hannity, you think, "Oh, he doesn't know he's lying." Some people like the "Fox & Friends" morning douchebags, on "Fox & Friends," real, really limited. You can just see it when you go on the show. Don't make that mistake, don't do that...Brian Kilmeade, they just, you get the sense they don't know they're lying. And they don't care. Then, Greta Van Susteren, Brit Hume, they do know they're lying.
First off, anyone notice that when liberals attack Rush Limbaugh that their first line of attack is his addiction to prescription drugs? No offense, but Holly-weird "intellectuals" have a serious habit of abusing painkillers. Prescription drug abuse isn't uncommon. Prescription painkillers, some doctors will state, are more addictive or as addictive as many illicit drugs. It's not hard to get hooked on the things. I've had friends that have gone through that, and it's just one of many reasons why I refuse to take them. But I think it's lowbrow and asinine to take that sort of stance on a man who, while on those prescription drugs, was still fully in command of his mental faculties, and was still driving the Left nuts.
As for double standards, Garofalo's accusation holds no water. Patrick Kennedy, retiring Democrat from the House of Representatives, has had an addiction to cocaine, an addiction to OxyContin (surprise, surprise, the same drug Mr. Limbaugh was addicted to), and has had bouts with alcoholism (just like his father, former US Senator Edward Kennedy). But in all instances of his problems we were told this was a "family matter" and "privacy" and "respect" were demanded of the Left. (A web search shows that drug and alcohol abuse isn't skipping politicians, be they liberal or conservative.) So yeah, I'm a tad offended at Janeane Garofalo's opening shot at a prominent pundit.
Now, onto the "lying" argument. This has gone on long enough. The Left accuses ANYONE on the conservative side of an argument of lying. We're all liars. They claim Bush lied us into a war in Iraq, and when they do so they completely ignore the arguments made for going into Iraq. No WMDs? Not true says the BBC. And just five days later the BBC they ran another story about US soldiers discovering a WMD program. Was it in the amounts that were touted before the UN? No, but they were there. In fact, then- Secretary of State Colin Powell outlined several reasons for invading Iraq, and they didn't all hinge on WMDs. But that never stopped the Left of lying about the reasons for the invasion of Iraq, from "getting back at Saddam Hussein for what he did to Bush's daddy" (nevermind the fact that his father kicked Saddam's @$$ in 1991), to a "war for oil" that made little sense on its face, the Left continuously lied about why we went into Iraq. No reasons were ever given, but the reason was as plain as the nose on your face when you let them talk about it, and spewed literal vitriol about a president they didn't like.
Janeane Garofalo and Rosie O'Donnell would love nothing more if people believed their insane screed that anyone on the conservative side of a debate or argument is lying. I'll tell you right now that I don't lie when I report what I see right here on this site. I don't lie. I don't manipulate the facts. I don't cherry-pick facts. I report and analyze. Guess what? So do the pundits and commentators on FOX News. MEMO TO THESE TWO IDIOTS: That's what we do! This crap that the people are being lied to just simply doesn't hold any water.
MSNBC hosts Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann have been lying to the public about how the Obama administration has been performing. These two dolts keep claiming that all is well in Obama's America despite an unemployment rate of almost 18% (REAL unemployment numbers, thank you very much), the fact that our dollar doesn't have the value it had even three years ago, and we're looking at a federal budget deficit of almost $12 trillion dollars at the end of Barry's first term in office. These two fools have been wearing the rose-colored glasses, and skipping down the path of crimson and clover for so long that they wouldn't know the truth if it came up and shook their hand. Hell, Olbermann would probably label "Truth" as the worst person in the world if he thought he could save his virtually non-existent ratings.
What's the point here? These two shrews don't have an audience that represents mainstream America. They honestly think people give a rat's @$$ about what their opinions are. No one cares. Hell, the only reason I even bring it up here is today is a slow news day, and these two fools happened to come across my crosshairs. I'd actually like to challenge these two nitwits to a live debate. I know I was warned by family members to never argue facts with an unarmed individual, but they seem to think they have a bevy of facts on their side. Let them come. If more people challenged idiots like these two, the idiots might shut the Hell up and let adults discuss issues that challenge this nation.
Publius II
The Left accuses conservatives of drinking the kool-aid yet they seem to excuse this sort of stupidity from two of their own:
JANEANE GAROFALO: I don't know what makes one a Rush Limbaugh fan. [...]
ROSIE O' DONNELL: And how is it that he's able to be a junkie, literally, and sort of still have reverence, respect, and be heralded as the leader of these, you know...
GAROFALO: Well, look at who he's talking to.
O'DONNELL: I know.
GAROFALO: Look at who he's talking to.
O'DONNELL: Those are the kind of people who if it was a junkie, right? What, because he buys the Oxycontin from a doctor?
GAROFALO: Sure, bought it's very elastic, isn't it? It's always a double standard. When it comes to rightwingers, whatever works for them works. [...]
GAROFALO: But here's another thing with the type of mindset, like, like, I keep saying rightwinger, I don't know what else to call it. A person that lacks empathy...Karl Rove, Frank Luntz, the guy who comes up with the talking points at these meetings. Grover Norquist. They have no shame. You can't embarrass them. They have no problem, and they know that they, who they're lying to. The base if you will. It need not be given facts, need not be fair-minded or open-minded to anything. And you, when you talk that way to people, the way Rush talks to people, the way he lies to people, you can't have respect for him. You couldn't possibly respect who's listening to you if you lied to them the way that they do. They use these people as a blunt instrument.
O'DONNELL: Do you think that they believe it? Rush or Glenn Beck or those people?
GAROFALO: It depends. Sometimes, like, when you meet Sean Hannity, you think, "Oh, he doesn't know he's lying." Some people like the "Fox & Friends" morning douchebags, on "Fox & Friends," real, really limited. You can just see it when you go on the show. Don't make that mistake, don't do that...Brian Kilmeade, they just, you get the sense they don't know they're lying. And they don't care. Then, Greta Van Susteren, Brit Hume, they do know they're lying.
First off, anyone notice that when liberals attack Rush Limbaugh that their first line of attack is his addiction to prescription drugs? No offense, but Holly-weird "intellectuals" have a serious habit of abusing painkillers. Prescription drug abuse isn't uncommon. Prescription painkillers, some doctors will state, are more addictive or as addictive as many illicit drugs. It's not hard to get hooked on the things. I've had friends that have gone through that, and it's just one of many reasons why I refuse to take them. But I think it's lowbrow and asinine to take that sort of stance on a man who, while on those prescription drugs, was still fully in command of his mental faculties, and was still driving the Left nuts.
As for double standards, Garofalo's accusation holds no water. Patrick Kennedy, retiring Democrat from the House of Representatives, has had an addiction to cocaine, an addiction to OxyContin (surprise, surprise, the same drug Mr. Limbaugh was addicted to), and has had bouts with alcoholism (just like his father, former US Senator Edward Kennedy). But in all instances of his problems we were told this was a "family matter" and "privacy" and "respect" were demanded of the Left. (A web search shows that drug and alcohol abuse isn't skipping politicians, be they liberal or conservative.) So yeah, I'm a tad offended at Janeane Garofalo's opening shot at a prominent pundit.
Now, onto the "lying" argument. This has gone on long enough. The Left accuses ANYONE on the conservative side of an argument of lying. We're all liars. They claim Bush lied us into a war in Iraq, and when they do so they completely ignore the arguments made for going into Iraq. No WMDs? Not true says the BBC. And just five days later the BBC they ran another story about US soldiers discovering a WMD program. Was it in the amounts that were touted before the UN? No, but they were there. In fact, then- Secretary of State Colin Powell outlined several reasons for invading Iraq, and they didn't all hinge on WMDs. But that never stopped the Left of lying about the reasons for the invasion of Iraq, from "getting back at Saddam Hussein for what he did to Bush's daddy" (nevermind the fact that his father kicked Saddam's @$$ in 1991), to a "war for oil" that made little sense on its face, the Left continuously lied about why we went into Iraq. No reasons were ever given, but the reason was as plain as the nose on your face when you let them talk about it, and spewed literal vitriol about a president they didn't like.
Janeane Garofalo and Rosie O'Donnell would love nothing more if people believed their insane screed that anyone on the conservative side of a debate or argument is lying. I'll tell you right now that I don't lie when I report what I see right here on this site. I don't lie. I don't manipulate the facts. I don't cherry-pick facts. I report and analyze. Guess what? So do the pundits and commentators on FOX News. MEMO TO THESE TWO IDIOTS: That's what we do! This crap that the people are being lied to just simply doesn't hold any water.
MSNBC hosts Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann have been lying to the public about how the Obama administration has been performing. These two dolts keep claiming that all is well in Obama's America despite an unemployment rate of almost 18% (REAL unemployment numbers, thank you very much), the fact that our dollar doesn't have the value it had even three years ago, and we're looking at a federal budget deficit of almost $12 trillion dollars at the end of Barry's first term in office. These two fools have been wearing the rose-colored glasses, and skipping down the path of crimson and clover for so long that they wouldn't know the truth if it came up and shook their hand. Hell, Olbermann would probably label "Truth" as the worst person in the world if he thought he could save his virtually non-existent ratings.
What's the point here? These two shrews don't have an audience that represents mainstream America. They honestly think people give a rat's @$$ about what their opinions are. No one cares. Hell, the only reason I even bring it up here is today is a slow news day, and these two fools happened to come across my crosshairs. I'd actually like to challenge these two nitwits to a live debate. I know I was warned by family members to never argue facts with an unarmed individual, but they seem to think they have a bevy of facts on their side. Let them come. If more people challenged idiots like these two, the idiots might shut the Hell up and let adults discuss issues that challenge this nation.
Publius II
posted by Syd And Vaughn | 10:23 AM
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