Obviously abortion is above Pelosi's pay grade, too
This was a liar, liar pants on fire moment if I ever heard one. We didn't see this from Pelosi yesterday but we saw Captain Ed's post about it, and folks, she's a moron.
Transcript from the video:
REP. PELOSI: I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And Senator–St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know. The point is, is that it shouldn’t have an impact on the woman’s right to choose. Roe v. Wade talks about very clear definitions of when the child–first trimester, certain considerations; second trimester; not so third trimester. There’s very clear distinctions. This isn’t about abortion on demand, it’s about a careful, careful consideration of all factors and–to–that a woman has to make with her doctor and her god. And so I don’t think anybody can tell you when life begins, human life begins. As I say, the Catholic Church for centuries has been discussing this, and there are those who’ve decided…
MR. BROKAW: The Catholic Church at the moment feels very strongly that it…
REP. PELOSI: I understand that.
MR. BROKAW: …begins at the point of conception.
REP. PELOSI: I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy. But it is, it is also true that God has given us, each of us, a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions. And we want abortions to be safe, rare, and reduce the number of abortions. That’s why we have this fight in Congress over contraception. My Republican colleagues do not support contraception. If you want to reduce the number of abortions, and we all do, we must–it would behoove you to support family planning and, and contraception, you would think. But that is not the case. So we have to take–you know, we have to handle this as respectfully–this is sacred ground. We have to handle it very respectfully and not politicize it, as it has been–and I’m not saying Rick Warren did, because I don’t think he did, but others will try to.
The Catholic Church has been ardently against abortion for 2000 YEARS! Not fifty. The first recognized catechism mentions it, written around 70 AD:
“The second commandment of the teaching: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child”
It's clear to us that she was either being willingly stupid, or lying willfully. The latter makes sense, given the screw up Obama made at the Saddleback forum (hence the title of the post), and that she's running interference because of that, and the fact that pro-choice, Catholic Joe Biden is on the ticket. She knows this doesn't sit well with pro-life people (especially us Catholics) and that Obama is having a problem with us.
But lying isn't the way to go. In fact even if she tells people she was mistaken and didn't know what she was talking about, that's another no-no. That's called bearing false witness, which goes hand-in-hand with lying. Stating something that isn't true, though you think it is, makes no difference. Nancy should have gone back and had a remedial course this past Sunday rather than go on with Tom Brokaw and making a fool of herself.
Not only did she not help Obama and Biden, but she reinvigorated this debate. She also insulted a great deal of Catholics. To Hell with you Nancy. Get a clue already. Your side just screwed the pooch.
Publius II
Transcript from the video:
REP. PELOSI: I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And Senator–St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know. The point is, is that it shouldn’t have an impact on the woman’s right to choose. Roe v. Wade talks about very clear definitions of when the child–first trimester, certain considerations; second trimester; not so third trimester. There’s very clear distinctions. This isn’t about abortion on demand, it’s about a careful, careful consideration of all factors and–to–that a woman has to make with her doctor and her god. And so I don’t think anybody can tell you when life begins, human life begins. As I say, the Catholic Church for centuries has been discussing this, and there are those who’ve decided…
MR. BROKAW: The Catholic Church at the moment feels very strongly that it…
REP. PELOSI: I understand that.
MR. BROKAW: …begins at the point of conception.
REP. PELOSI: I understand. And this is like maybe 50 years or something like that. So again, over the history of the church, this is an issue of controversy. But it is, it is also true that God has given us, each of us, a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions. And we want abortions to be safe, rare, and reduce the number of abortions. That’s why we have this fight in Congress over contraception. My Republican colleagues do not support contraception. If you want to reduce the number of abortions, and we all do, we must–it would behoove you to support family planning and, and contraception, you would think. But that is not the case. So we have to take–you know, we have to handle this as respectfully–this is sacred ground. We have to handle it very respectfully and not politicize it, as it has been–and I’m not saying Rick Warren did, because I don’t think he did, but others will try to.
The Catholic Church has been ardently against abortion for 2000 YEARS! Not fifty. The first recognized catechism mentions it, written around 70 AD:
“The second commandment of the teaching: You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure [an] abortion, nor destroy a newborn child”
It's clear to us that she was either being willingly stupid, or lying willfully. The latter makes sense, given the screw up Obama made at the Saddleback forum (hence the title of the post), and that she's running interference because of that, and the fact that pro-choice, Catholic Joe Biden is on the ticket. She knows this doesn't sit well with pro-life people (especially us Catholics) and that Obama is having a problem with us.
But lying isn't the way to go. In fact even if she tells people she was mistaken and didn't know what she was talking about, that's another no-no. That's called bearing false witness, which goes hand-in-hand with lying. Stating something that isn't true, though you think it is, makes no difference. Nancy should have gone back and had a remedial course this past Sunday rather than go on with Tom Brokaw and making a fool of herself.
Not only did she not help Obama and Biden, but she reinvigorated this debate. She also insulted a great deal of Catholics. To Hell with you Nancy. Get a clue already. Your side just screwed the pooch.
Publius II
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